Winter Soldier
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Movie Reviews of Winter Soldier
Movie Review: Wow... Just wow...
Summary: 5 Stars
Soldiers testifying about their actions during the Vietnam War. Mandatory viewing for anyone interested in the war, or war in general.
j.w.k.
Movie Review: Yet Another Time To Try Men's Souls
Summary: 4 Stars
I am rather fond of invoking, especially in writing of the American Revolution that we have just again celebrated, Tom Paine's little propaganda piece in defense of that revolution which hails the winter soldiers of 1776 for staying at their posts when others either ran away or became faint-hearted at the prospects of defeating the bloody English. It is those efforts by those long ago winter soldier that other leftists and I have honored in the past and continue to honor today. We will leave the hollow holiday rhetoric and mindless flag waving to the sunshine patriots. Needless to say, given the title of the film under review, I am not the only one who appreciates that description and the producers here, I believe, have caught the essence of the spirit of those long ago winter soldiers in this documentary about the rank and file soldier-driven investigation into the atrocities and horrors produced by the American military in the Vietnam War in 1971.
It is an old hoary truism, if not now something of a cliché, that war does not bring out humankind's nobler instincts. For a very recent example one need look no further back than at the newspaper headlines of the past few years concerning various atrocities and acts of torture committed by the American military in Iraq and Afghanistan. However, Iraq and Afghanistan are hardly the first time that the American military has been exposed acting in less than its self-proclaimed `agent of liberation' role in its various imperial adventures. If one rolls the film of history back to the last generation, for those who have forgotten or were not around, Vietnam presents that same story. As against prior wars two things made awareness that something had gone horribly wrong possible in Vietnam. First, Vietnam was the first televised war and at some point it became impossible for the military to hide everything that it was doing. Secondly, a small critical mass of American military personnel, mainly those rank and file personnel who actually carried out military policy, wanted to clear the air of their complicity in that policy.
Needless to say, an investigation into atrocities and torture is not something that the American military establishment wished to have aired in public (and as the fate of this film indicates raised hell to successfully keep it out of the major media markets of the time). That establishment was much more comfortable with internal governmental investigations or whitewashes of their actions as occurred, ultimately, in the case of My Lai. However the traumatic reaction of a significant element of the rank and file soldiery in Vietnam caused this 'unofficial' investigation to take place. For those who grew up, like this reviewer, believing something of Lincoln's expression that the American democratic experience was the `last, best hope for mankind' this was not pretty viewing. For one, also like the reviewer, who was a soldier during the Vietnam War period and who had friends and `buddies' just like those that populate this documentary it was doubly hard. But, dear reader, for the most part what the citizen-soldiers- our brothers, sons and other relatives- have to say here needed to be said.
Naturally in a documentary that films an investigation into atrocities, torture and military standard operating procedure (SOP) during the Vietnam War the interviewees are going to be a little more articulate, a little more remorseful and a lot more angry than the average soldier who went through Vietnam came home and tried to forget the experience. These soldiers had an agenda- and that agenda was to get their buddies- the troops still in Vietnam- home. Nevertheless one must be impressed by the way they expressed themselves -sometimes haltingly, sometimes inarticulately, sometimes from some depth that we have no understanding of. Moreover, their testimony has the ring of truth. Not the SOP military truth but this truth- humankind has a long way to go before it can, without embarrassment, use the word civilized to describe itself. No, my friends, these were not our soldiers but, they were our people-these were the winter soldiers of the Vietnam War.
Movie Review: The actions of a few...
Summary: 2 Stars
Sure, some soldiers committed crimes in the Vietnam war. BUT, don't let their professed behavior cloud your perspective into believing it was widespread amongst all combat units. Most of our soldiers served their country with honor and performed the difficult task with dignified integrity. They performed a duty that few wanted to do, they served their country instead of dodging the draft and fleeing to Canada. Remember the atrocious treatment heaped on our soldiers as pow's by the north vietnamese and the countless horrors perpetrated against the south vietnamese people by the north vietnamese and viet cong. We were the good guys.Movie Review: Not exactly as described
Summary: 1 Stars
A detailed examination of the full transcript of the presentations made in Detroit in '71 shows they are a mix of reasonable, questionable, and really off-the-wall statements. One of the stars, Scott Camil, has made a lifelong career of outlandish claims, most recently that an entire village was massacred by Marines who wanted the US combat boots the natives had all somehow acquired. Since the average VN foot size is several sizes smaller than US and villagers didn't like American boots anyhow, this is patently absurd. (He had also proposed assassinating US Senators.) None of the claims of atrocities could be confirmed by the military investigators who later contacted those testifying, all of whom refused to cooperate. (Since they were already out of the military, they could not have been prosecuted for any such incidents, so they had no reason to stay silent.) Accepting the film at its face value, no matter how dramatic and real its contents seem, is well beyond risky. There were undoubtedly individual atrocities committed by US soldiers in Viet Nam, as there have been in every war by every side. But there was never a policy of inciting or encouraging such, and in fact there were courts-martial of soldiers for such occurrences. Where do we hear of the trials of VC/NVA for the 4000-odd citizens of Hue very deliberately rounded up and murdered during Tet '68? If you want to believe the USA is the source of all evil in the world, buy this DVD and you'll get years of enjoyment from it. Otherwise, buy books by Gunter Lewy or Harry Summers or Lewis Sorley.Movie Review: More anti-war propaganda nonsense...
Summary: 1 Stars
Having spent almost 6 years in the military during Viet Nam I'm really sick and tired of all the non-military types trying to dig up dirt and portray soldiers as murderers and torturers. Far too many of these so called "witnesses" were stoned out druggies during their tour of duty in Viet Nam and had to justify their lack of real military service by "confessing" to crimes that they "witnessed".
Anyone who has served in combat and been shot at knows that war is hell and will do what it takes to survive and go home. The so-called "victims of torture" at Abu Grahib were treated like girl scouts compared to the treatment that American POW's received at the hands of the Vietnamese and Bravo Two Zero received at the hands of the Iraqis. This is trash...pure and simple....and REAL soldiers who watch this will realize that.
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